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Gammel 29th November 2018, 06:48 PM
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Klassiker.
Besættelsesmagtens små massakre styrker den lokale modstand. En landsby der nu er 100% Taliban-venlig.

Thirty Afghan civilians killed in U.S. air strike, officials say: Reuters


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A resident of the area called Mohammadullah said the clash began late on Tuesday.

“Foreign forces bombed the area and the bombs hit my brother’s house,” he said.

He said women and 16 children were among the dead.

Another resident, Feda Mohammad, said some victims were still buried in the rubble of the compound.

“The area is under the control of Taliban but all of the victims of last night’s bombing are civilians,” he said.
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Gammel 29th November 2018, 06:56 PM
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Bedste beslutning mulig. Pak sammen og rejse hjem.

Trump Reportedly Wants To Withdraw All US Troops From Afghanistan By The Next Presidential Election
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Gammel 1st December 2018, 02:40 PM
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Ikke Vietnams massive terrorbombninger, men samme logik.

Det virkede ikke dengang og idag...?

The US has dropped more munitions in 2018 in Afghanistan than it has in any year in over a decade: Stars & Stripes
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Hvordan skal denne her tolkes andet end at NATO vil forblive i Afghanistan. Trods Taliban klart har sagt ingen fremmede soldater på afghansk jord.

NATO Press conference - Jens Stoltenberg

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The challenge in Afghanistan is great.

And Allies have suffered fatalities in recent months. As have Afghan forces and civilians.

We must continue to ensure that the country never again becomes a safe haven for international terrorists. Over the past months, we have stepped up our support – with more forces and funding.

Because the cost of leaving is bigger than the cost of staying.
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Gammel 5th December 2018, 08:36 AM
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Afghanistan a la Vietnam. Samme problemstilling og sikkert med samme resultat til slut.

Den afghanske hær er bemandet af levebrødssoldater der gør det for pengenes skyld. Det kan man ikke beskylde Talibans folk for. Motivation er guld værd når mænd skal kæmpe for en sag. Taliban har ingen af de ressourcer som den afghanske hær har, men de kan skaffe folk og træne dem. Trods de sikkert osse lider massive tab med deres ringe ildkraft.

CENTCOM Nominee Admits Afghan Military Would Collapse If US Left: Task and Purpose

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Afghanistan’s security forces are taking unsustainable casualties and would collapse if all U.S. troops withdrew, the nominee to lead U.S. Central Command said on Tuesday.

Marine Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr. told lawmakers that both the U.S. military and Taliban are “in a stalemate,” and that happened to be the most optimistic part of his description of the security situation.

Since 2015, nearly 29,000 Afghan troops and police have been killed, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said earlier this month.
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Gammel 21st December 2018, 08:55 AM
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Jamen, dog. Det ser udtil at Trump har nosser nok til at han måske vil droppe Afghanistan osse. Det kan være hans forretningsbaggrund... Det der med at smide gode penge efter dårlige, er en situation man ikke skal blive i.

U.S. to Withdraw About 7,000 Troops From Afghanistan, Officials Say: NYT

nuværende troppeniveau.

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Besides the current contingent of roughly 14,000 American troops, there are also 8,000 NATO and allied troops deployed in Afghanistan tasked primarily with training and advising the Afghan forces.

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Gammel 21st December 2018, 09:12 AM
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Forsvarsminister Mattis' opsigelsesbrev.

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1075885388701536262
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Gammel 25th December 2018, 05:14 PM
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Præcis derfor er det man skal trække sig. Selv da der var 3-4 gange så mange tropper forgik dette. Kort sagt hvad får man ud af at tæve løs på den afghanske befolkning. Rejs og lad dem selv slås videre. Måske vil det lykkes Taliban at genetablere den fred de skabte ved at nedkæmp krigsherrene som nu sidder i regeringskontorerne i Kabul

https://borsen.dk/nyheder/ritzau/art...i _kabul.html
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Gammel 27th December 2018, 02:52 PM
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Martin van Crefelds små skarpe om Afghanistan og det der fulgte. Det siget alt hvad man behøves at vide om vores politikeres, journalisters osv. evner. Man lær ikke at fortidens fejl. Løsningen havde været at give Taliban en røvfuld, fange de AQ folk man kunne og derefter forlade Afghanistan igen. Alt sammen i 2001-02.

Læg mærke til at for ham var det klart at selv de tungnemme burde se at slaget var tabt i midt-2002

Quick in, Slow Out - Martin van Creveld



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A superpower—at the time, remember, there was only one—simply cannot afford to be treated the way Bin Laden and Co. treated the U.S. Such is the way of the world; had President Bush not done what the vast majority both in Congress and in the nation believed was both justified and necessary, surely a way would have been found either to coerce him or to sweep him away.

That said, right from the beginning militarily the prospects were dubious. Not because the target of America’s rage was far away, land-bound, and hard to access—those were problems that could be and were overcome, albeit at vast expense. And not because it was in any sense powerful—quite the reverse.
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Within a matter of months it turned out that, whatever the weaknesses of Afghanistan as a country and of the Taliban as a government, there was one thing they did have. Namely, a practically unlimited supply of men (here and there, a few women too) prepared to put their lives at risk in fighting the Big Bad Wolf; the one which, the way they saw it, had invaded their country in order to destroy their faith and their way of life.

By the mid-2002, at the latest, it was clear that the war could not be won and was, in fact, well on the way to being lost just as Vietnam and Somalia had previously been. Beset by hubris, however, those in and around the White House were reluctant to draw that conclusion. Eyes they had, but they did not see. Ears they had, but they did not listen. Instead they talked and talked. And what did they talk about? Well, about how they had made their country the most powerful in history and how this unprecedented power would enable them to repeat their “victory” in Iraq, of course.

At this point I have a confession to make. Almost from the beginning, I was convinced that the American campaign in Afghanistan, necessary though it might be, would probably fail. On that I turned out to be right. Where I turned out to be wrong was my belief that the people in Washington would learn from this counterinsurgency campaign as well as practically all others from 1945 on. Even as preparations for the war in Iraq, went on, I refused to believe they were meant in earnest; no one, I thought, could be that stupid.

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Gammel 2nd January 2019, 04:19 PM
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Klassisk CIA som taget ud af Vietnamtiden. Der kørte de osse dødspatrujler med lokale sydvietnameser. Sådan skaber man motivationen hos terrorister af islamisk baggrund. Vestens befolkning får en fortælling. Den islamiske verden ser en anden. Strategisk selvmål fra USAs side.

C.I.A.’s Afghan Forces Leave a Trail of Abuse and Anger: New York Times

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NADER SHAH KOT, Afghanistan — Razo Khan woke up suddenly to the sight of assault rifles pointed at his face, and demands that he get out of bed and onto the floor.

Within minutes, the armed raiders had separated the men from the women and children. Then the shooting started.

As Mr. Khan was driven away for questioning, he watched his home go up in flames. Within were the bodies of two of his brothers and of his sister-in-law Khanzari, who was shot three times in the head. Villagers who rushed to the home found the burned body of her 3-year-old daughter, Marina, in a corner of a torched bedroom.

The men who raided the family’s home that March night, in the district of Nader Shah Kot, were members of an Afghan strike force trained and overseen by the Central Intelligence Agency in a parallel mission to the United States military’s, but with looser rules of engagement.

Det vil hellere ikke overraske hvis målet for succes er antallet af dræbte. IKKE antallet af Talibanere. Blot antallet af dræbte for en død mand må jo være skyldig.

Vietnam: The Phoenix Program

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The major two components of the program were Provincial Reconnaissance Units (PRUs) and regional interrogation centers. PRUs would kill or capture suspected VC members, as well as civilians who were thought to have information on VC activities. Many of these people were taken to interrogation centers and were tortured in an attempt to gain intelligence on VC activities in the area.[7] The information extracted at the centers was given to military commanders, who would use it to task the PRU with further capture and assassination missions.[7] The program's effectiveness was measured in the number of VC members who were "neutralized",[8] a euphemism[9][10] meaning imprisoned, persuaded to defect, or killed.[11][12][13]

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