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Gammel 18th September 2019, 04:15 PM
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Prisen for en handelskrig er måske blokering af noget der kan have USAs interesse.

China signals veto in standoff with U.S. over Afghan U.N. mission: diplomats
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Gammel 11th December 2019, 07:23 AM
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Kæmpeafsløring fra Washington Posts side.

Den amerikanske militær ledelse vidste at Afghanistan var en fiasko trods de officielt hævdede det modsatte. Mon ikke det sige meget om alle de danske kommentartorer som er/var pro-Afghanistankrigen.



The Afghanistan Papers - A secret history of the war

In a cache of previously unpublished interviews and memos, key insiders reveal what went wrong during the longest armed conflict in U.S. history


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For 18 years, America has been at war in Afghanistan. As part of a government project to understand what went wrong, a federal agency interviewed more than 400 people who had a direct role in the conflict. In those interviews, generals, ambassadors, diplomats and other insiders offered firsthand accounts of the mistakes that have prolonged the war.

The full, unsparing remarks and the identities of many of those who made them have never been made public — until now. After a three-year legal battle, The Washington Post won release of more than 2,000 pages of “Lessons Learned” interviews conducted by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. Those interviews reveal there was no consensus on the war’s objectives, let alone how to end the conflict.
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Gammel 12th December 2019, 01:08 AM
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En vigtig lektion i alt ang. Afghanistan.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/07/13/truth/

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The major literary figure Jonathan Swift wrote on this topic in “The Examiner” in 1710 although he did not mention shoes or boots. Boldface has been added to excerpts: 1

Besides, as the vilest Writer has his Readers, so the greatest Liar has his Believers; and it often happens, that if a Lie be believ’d only for an Hour, it has done its Work, and there is no farther occasion for it. Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect
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Gammel 16th December 2019, 04:00 PM
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Samme problemstilling og de samme medvirkende ses osse i Mali m.m. Vores ledere og embedsværk ved at det er en fiasko, men alligevel gør de det... Hvorfor?


Washington Post’s Afghanistan Story Reveals Core Folly of American Defense Strategy
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Gammel 21st December 2019, 06:14 PM
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Nok en blodbesudlet idealist der ønsker at forbedre verden uden at forholde sig til det simpelt punkt. Kun afghanerne kan forandre Afghanistan. Udefrakommende soldater m.v. vil intet kunne gøre. Afghanerne har nu i snart to årtier vist at de ikke ønsker de fremmedes værdier presset ned over deres hoveder.

Citatet siger det hele. Århundredes historiske erfaringer smidt på lossepladsen og erstattede med en fanatisk tro på sagen. Uanset hvor stor menneskelig lidelse det afghanske folk skal tilføjes vil denne amerikaner ikke give op. Husk et helt simple faktum. Taliban er afghanere. Dræb en talibaner og du skaber en forældreløs lille pige, en enke eller forældre der har mistet en søn... Hvad gjorde vi med tyskerne rundt om i Europa efter deres fremfærd under Hitler, og den tyske værdiudbredelse? Ditto med det vi ser nu med IS-frvillige fra Europa.

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It is also about American values. What is it, exactly, about nation-building that we must avoid at all costs? Does it extend to looking in the eyes of a hopeful Afghan girl of kindergarten age and saying, “Sorry, kid. You’re on your own”?


I served in Afghanistan. No, it’s not another Vietnam.: Washington Post
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Gammel 9th February 2020, 04:05 PM
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Et tegn på imperial vandvid. Krige uden grund eller med forventning om succes. At man skulle angribe Afghanistan pga al-Qaeda er løgn. Som 11 september-kommissionen kortlagde. Angrebet blev skabt i Karachi (Pakistan), Kuala Lumpur (Indonesien) samt Hamborg (Tyskland), hvor penge og mandskab rekrutteredes.


Værd at huske på når danske politikere hævder at de sør'me ikke viste at Afghanistan ville være en fiasko fra starten af.

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Now we know, thanks to The Afghanistan Papers published in The Washington Post this past week, that U.S. policymakers doubted almost from the start that the two-decade-long Afghanistan war could ever succeed. Officials didn’t know who the enemy was and had little sense of what an achievable “victory” might look like. “We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking,” said Douglas Lute, the Army three-star general who oversaw the conflict from the White House during the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

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Gammel 13th February 2020, 04:48 PM
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Så er der mulighed for at Trump lever op til et valgløfte. Når først USA er ude af Afghanistan så kan enhver aftale mellem Taliban og krigsherre/narkobaron-regeringen rives op og kampene genoptages.

U.S., Taliban have negotiated proposal for seven-day reduction in violence: Pentagon chief: Reuters

Trump Gives Conditional Go Ahead on Peace Deal With Taliban, Officials Say: New York Times


Is Afghan Intelligence Building a Regime of Terror With the CIA’s Help?

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Gammel 14th February 2020, 09:11 AM
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Succes for folket. Så de bare bliver ved med at betale.

“That’s Classified!” See How Afghanistan War Lies Are Made: The American Conservative

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The U.S. has spent billions training soldiers there, but don't think you're entitled to know how they are (failing) doing.
Sen. Josh Hawley

The Afghan government classifies all metrics that would show its failure to reach goals, or stops collecting the information entirely, a government watchdog told a Senate subcommittee led by Sen. Rand Paul today.

“Do any specific trends lead you to believe that Afghan security forces will one day be able to hold off the Taliban… from being able to stave off attacks on the U.S. homeland?” asked Sen. Josh Hawley, the Republican junior Senator from Missouri.

“That’s the 64 billion dollar question,” said John Sopko, Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. “Most of the indicia for measuring success are now classified, or are not collected…. $64 billion spent and I cannot tell the American people [whether we’ve reached these goals or not] and that’s because we allow the Afghan government to classify the information.”

“And that’s because… When one metric doesn’t appear to show success, we shift to a different metric, isn’t that right?” asked Hawley.

“That’s correct,” replied Sopko.
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